Thought Leadership Interview #1: Kevin Temple of Enterprise Selling

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I’m pleased to bring you the first in a series of interviews with thought leaders in B2B Sales and Marketing. First up is sales expert Kevin Temple of Enterprise Selling.

If you like what Kevin has to say, all of his contact information is included as well.  I wish to thank Kevin for his contributions to Fearless Competitor too.

Many more thought leaders are coming soon, so stay tuned.

Kevin Temple | The Enterprise Selling Group | 916-939-1939 | www.enterprise-selling.com|  LinkedIn ProfileImperativeSelling Blog

Question 1: CSO Insights recently found that quota achievement was at its lowest rate ever, lead generation budgets were flat or cut, and quotas were being raised. Jim Dickie see this as the Perfect Storm.  As a sales expert, what are you observing in B2B sales?

(KT) I would concur with their observations. In context, I’ll highlight that when the economy sours, that would seem to be the time to sharpen skills and become extremely methodical in squeezing every dollar out of every opportunity. Yet, sales methodology training is down 40-65% in the last year. One of my customers had a painful first quarter in 2009, as did many with the economy tightening up. However, they invested in a major initiative to improve qualification, cross selling, and managing the evaluation process. As a result, they increased their average selling price, their services to product ratio and decreased their sales cycles in 2009. While the economy is a factor in tougher sales, not investing in sales skills and leadership skills is the bigger factor in the gap between expectations and actual results.

Question 2: The economic challenges of today are a major problem for B2B sellers.  You wrote a great article entitled “Leading a Sales Team During a Down Market.”  Can you share the lessons with us?

(KT) The key message is that during a robust economy many selling sins are hidden and overlooked in the face of good news, meaning revenue growth. So when the economy sours,those neglected, or atrophied, skills become an opportunity for growth with process improvements. I give several examples in the article, but one common example is the skill to qualify and disqualify. During a robust economy, many sales people play the numbers game. Talk to ten prospects and one will buy from you. When the economy sours, that ratio might change to 20:1 for example. This is when it becomes critical to learn how to disqualify out the opportunities that don’t have a chance of closing. First because they take time with no sale resulting, but second, because they rob the seller of the time to work on an opportunity that could close. The customer I cited earlier was able to close 20% more deals per rep in 2009 because they invested in qualification/disqualfication skill development.

Question 3: Changing of the status quo is a major impediment to progress.  How can sales leaders implement change without incurring undue risk?

(KT) There is a significant amount of research on this subject, primarily coming out of Harvard. We’ve identified five key leadership actions that increase the probability of successful change in sales transformations. The research out of Harvard indicates that just missing one of these critical leadership actions increases the risk of failure. So the best investment a sales leader can make is understanding the components of change leadership. The article on our site entitled, “Transforming from Product to Solution Selling” provides a succinct overview of these leadership change actions. They include excellent communication and vision setting, establishing supporting coalitions, establishing early wins for the change campaign, overcoming obstacles in the ecosystem, and implementing a rigorous review process.

Question 4: How can a sales leader assess his or her personal need and fit for improvement in sales process?  What tool(s) do you offer?

(KT) That’s a big question. But it might have a simple answer. The answer lies in the pain or gain that is on their mind. If it’s a struggle to meet their quota, or the growth expectations seem out of reality with actual results, than its time to find better ways to achieve your business results. On the other side, if the sales leader desires to achieve higher levels of responsibility in their career, they should learn how to improve their team now under any circumstances. The lessons will apply the rest of their career.  I have not found a sales team that wasn’t overlooking several opportunities for improving their performance, so its highly likely that every reader of this article can increase their productivity by 10-20% just by looking inside the practices of their teams. As for tools, we provide a comprehensive checklist to identify the opportunities for sales improvement, and we provide services to map out their existing sales process and identify the opportunities for improvement. This is particularly helpful for senior leaders that may have several sales channels but not the luxury of understanding each operational process in detail.

Question 5: If you had just three things you could say to a VP of Sales today – the key take-aways, what would they be?

(KT) #1. You can get more performance out of your team, but it takes an investment in problem identification, skill development and a well defined leadership plan.

#2. As a leader, you must go to bat for the development of your team. The sales leaders I’ve seen prosper in the last year, made successful proposals to invest in their teams when all other spending was put on hold.

#3 Now is the time. The average longevity of a sales leader is less than two years. Many explained away their recent performance with the economy. So with the economy coming out of recession, those sales leaders that can’t demonstrate a return to two digit growth are likely to find nowhere to hide.

Kevin Temple | The Enterprise Selling Group | 916-939-1939 | www.enterprise-selling.comLinkedIn Profile | ImperativeSelling Blog

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What do you think about the challenges of sales today and Kevin’s advice?  Do you agree or disagree?

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Find New Customers helps business develop and implement programs to improve the way they find and acquire new customers using best practices in lead generation.

Random acts of marketing (Why you need outside help)

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I was having a great conversation with a Vice President at a $100MM West Coast software firm when she told me:

We’re kind of old school, Jeff.

We just engage in random acts of marketing.”

What she was referring to was their tendency to run multiple marketing campaigns without insights into prospective buyers. Unfortunately, what she complained about is far too common. Random acts plaque B2B marketers all over the world.

She was very interested in what I shared about Value Propositions, Buyer Personas and Universal Lead Definitions.  She said that’s the kind of thing her company really needs to do – but they’ve never been able to break through the status quo.  An inability to break the status quo is why you need outside help.

Without Buyer Personas, a marketing organization cannot engage in Content Marketing or develop Lead Nurturing programs to engage prospective buyers. They cannot create remarkable content (to use Ardath Albee’s terms) based on Catch Factors.  They cannot develop Cliff Hangers to keep prospective buyers’ attention.

This is why an outside service like Find New CustomersLead Generation made Simple” plays such a critical role for B2B sellers.  Only an outside service can break through the status quo. Your marketing staff is so buried in the day to day they can never begin to hope to address fundamental challenges. You need outside help.

The data shows the benefits of outside help, as outsourced lead generation produces 43% better results, than in-house.  You need outside help to become great, not just good, in business to business lead generation. For more on why key tasks are critical, please see article We Need to be “world-class in Demand Generation.

As an independent, we can perform a lead generation diagnosis and prescribe the bitter medicine the company really needs. As the saying goes, a person who acts as his own lawyer or doctor has a fool for a client. To learn about services available from Find New Customers, please visit How We Help.

What do you think about outsourced lead generation and breaking the status quo?  We love comments and respond to every one.  We also invite you to share this with other on Linkedin, Twitter, Facebook, Digg, Delicious, etc.

Jeff Ogden, the Fearless Competitor, is President of Fun and Find New CustomersLead Generation Made Simple” Check out the online show every Friday at 11am ET, “Laugh and Learn with the Fearless Competitor.”

Find New Customers helps businesses develop and implement demand generation programs to improve the way they find and acquire sales leadsusing best practices in lead generation.

Find New Customers, can certainly help your business dramatically improve the flow of sales-ready leads to salespeople.” Paul Dunay, Buzz Marketing for Technology.


If you’re afraid to fail, you will

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That’s the lesson I took from the article on Robert Iger, CEO of Disney in Sunday Morning’s New York Times, “Is Disney’s Iger Having a Cinderella Moment?”  History – and boards – reward the brave and audacious.

  • $7 billion to purchase Pixar?
  • Reorganize the movie studio and lose a dozen top execs, including a very popular leader?
  • Do the opposite of everyone else?When retailers were cutting back due to the recession, Iger doubled down, spending $1 million on each of 340 Disney stores.
  • Swap a CFO (finance) with a division head?  Crazy!

One other factor I see as key here – Strong People skills, namely relationships, fence-building, listening intently.

The successful executive is an audacious risk taker — who’s also skilled with people. Use that in looking for your next leader.

What do you think makes a successful leader? We love comments and respond to every one. You can also subscribe to the Fearless Competitor in a reader, via email or even on the Kindle.

Jeff Ogden, the Fearless Competitor, is President of Find New CustomersLead Generation Made Simple.” He’s also the author of two highly acclaimed white papers,How to Find New Customers and Definitive Guide to Making Quota, as well the ebook, Prospect Driven Marketing.

Find New Customers helps business develop and implement programs to improve the way they find and acquire new customers using best practices in lead generation.

The results of “best marketing company” are in

The results are in. O(Contests are a great idea for your lead generation programs, by the way. Out of 480 votes in total

  1. HubSpot  was the winner, with 172 votes
  2. Marketo with 97 votes
  3. Genius.com with 83 votes
  4. Eloqua had 53 votes
    Market2Lead had 53 votes
  5. Pardot had 5 votes
  6. Salesforce.com had 2 votes
  7. Bizzagent had 1 vote
  8. Neolane had 1 vote

We readily acknowledge that this was not a scientific survey. But without question, it did highlight the best marketing companies.  HubSpot is a superb marketing firm and Marketo is very good as well.  Several of the others are strong too.  And companies like Neolane are not very good marketers.

I believe the result are valid, but they are not scientific.  This served as a great entertainment piece for about 500 people in one week.

Hope you enjoyed it and I’d love to hear what you think of it.  We read all comments and respond to every one.

What do you think? We love comments and people who share.

Jeff Ogden is President of Find New CustomersLead Generation Made Simple” Check out the online show every Friday at 11am ET, “Laugh and Learn with the Fearless Competitor.” Find New Customers is one of few lead generation companies in New York.

Find New Customers helps companies like yours (with 50 to 5,000 employees and complex products) implement lead generation programs to improve the way you find and acquire high quality sales leads using best practices in online lead generation. Quality leads matter. In fact, a recent study found that sales teams with fewer, high quality sales leads closed more than sales teams with more leads of dubious quality.

If you wish to do sales lead generation online, contact the B2B lead generation experts at Find New Customers using the form below.






How companies miss the boat on experience

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The single most common requirement in a job description is industry experience.  If you don’t have banking, backup software, insurance, etc. experience, you need not apply. But in my mind, this is a BIG mistake.

Experience Matters Not (or barely)

My goal in this blog post is to explore why this is a red herring — a non-factor in most cases.  The key question is this:

Does industry experience predict future success?

In my long experience, the answer is no.  Factors such as passion, drive, listening skills and super presentation skills are vastly more important and determine real success.  People who exhibit these characteristics vastly outperform those with experience alone.

The mistake of choosing the wrong factors does not just exist in business. Even the NFL gets it wrong.

The First Pick in the Draft isn’t the Best Pick
(from the New York Times business section on Easter 2010)

It seems that even NFL general managers, with millions of dollars to spend and teams of scouts to evaluate talent — gets it wrong.  Maybe business is missing something too.

Another example is one I lived personally.  We had three salespeople under consideration to handle GE worldwide.

  • Salesrep A – handled GE for us for a long time.  Decent results.
  • Salesrep B – new to the company, but an innovative and top performer.  Virtually no experience with GE.
  • Salesrep C – handled GE for our number one competitor.

I watched all three do the job, so we have good metrics.

It was no contest.  96% of companies would have hired C — the competitor rep. 3% of companies would have selected A — our experienced salesrep.  But 1% would have taken a chance with B – the new guy without experience – but had they picked him, they would hit the ball out of the park.  It was no contest whatsoever.  B delivered at least 5X what A or C delivered.  B was yours truly, the Fearless Competitor.

How is that possible?  How does the salesperson with the least experience achieve the best results?  If experience does not predict the future any better than a coin flip, what are the right factors to evaluate talent?

Since personality traits matter more, I’d look for things like this:

  • Competitive sports – team play, competition, hard work
  • Started a business – personal initiative, drive, passion
  • Produced great content – fresh ideas, innovative
  • Good presenter – strong with CEOs, and good listener

So next time you start reviewing resumes, I hope you’ll start looking at them differently.  You’re looking for passion, drive, hustle – and not experience.

What do you think?  I’d love to hear your experiences.  We welcome comments and respond to each one in person.

What do you think? We love comments and people who share.

Jeff Ogden is President of Find New CustomersLead Generation Made Simple” Check out the online show every Friday at 11am ET, “Laugh and Learn with the Fearless Competitor.” Find New Customers is one of few lead generation companies in New York.

Find New Customers helps companies like yours (with 150 to 5,000 employees and complex products) implement lead generation programs to improve the way you find and acquire high quality sales leads using best practices in online lead generation. Quality leads matter. In fact, a recent study found that sales teams with fewer, high quality sales leads closed more than sales teams with more leads of dubious quality.

If you wish to do sales lead generation online, contact the B2B lead generation experts at Find New Customers using the form below.






Crafting White Paper 2.0: My interview with Jonathan Kantor of Appum

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White papers remain the most effective piece of marketing collateral (for lead generation programs), with 80% of respondents finding them moderately to highly influential in the purchasing decision.” (Eccolo Media)

But in this world of hundreds of TV channels, YouTube, Twitter, et al, readers are swimming in information.  How does a powerful lead generation tool like a white paper engage the busy and overloaded executive of today?

This is where the book Crafting White Paper 2.0 comes in.   Jonathan Kantor of The Appum Group “The White Paper Company” and he also writes the White Paper Pundit blog.

I had the great pleasure of interviewing Jonathan about his new book recently.

You can listen to my interview with this expert by visiting my podcast blog or my B2B Demand Generation iTunes channel (It’s free).  In fact, if you subscribe to our iTunes channel, you can sync your iPod, Blackberry or other smartphone and listen while you work out, mow the yard, shovel snow, etc.

I hope you’ll subscribe to this and our many other podcasts on b2b lead generation best practices.

What do you think? Do you have good white papers?  Are you trying to develop them?

We welcome all comments and respond to every one.

What do you think? We love comments and people who share.

Jeff Ogden is President of Find New CustomersLead Generation Made Simple” Check out the online show every Friday at 11am ET, “Laugh and Learn with the Fearless Competitor.” Find New Customers is one of few lead generation companies in New York.

Find New Customers helps companies like yours (with 50 to 5,000 employees and complex products) implement lead generation programs to improve the way you find and acquire high quality sales leads using best practices in online lead generation. Quality leads matter. In fact, a recent study found that sales teams with fewer, high quality sales leads closed more than sales teams with more leads of dubious quality.

If you wish to do sales lead generation online, contact the B2B lead generation experts at Find New Customers using the form below.






Content Marketing: Publishing is the New Marketing

Find New Customers recently hosted a webinar featuring Joe Pulizzi of Junta42 and co-author of Get Content, Get Customers for a terrific presentation on this topic.

Why does content matter?

  • Almost 95% of buyers said the solution provider they chose provided “ample content to help navigate them through each step of the buying process.
  • Less than 10% of buyers were contacted cold by the seller.
  • 78% of purchases started with information gathering.

You can access a special streaming, fully indexed version at ‘

Content Marketing: Publishing is the New Marketing.

What do you think?  What is your content strategy?  We welcome comments and respond to all.

What do you think? We love comments and people who share.

Jeff Ogden is President of Find New CustomersLead Generation Made Simple” Check out the online show every Friday at 11am ET, “Laugh and Learn with the Fearless Competitor.” Find New Customers is one of few lead generation companies in New York.

Find New Customers helps companies like yours (with 50 to 5,000 employees and complex products) implement lead generation programs to improve the way you find and acquire high quality sales leads using best practices in online lead generation. Quality leads matter. In fact, a recent study found that sales teams with fewer, high quality sales leads closed more than sales teams with more leads of dubious quality.

If you wish to do sales lead generation online, contact the B2B lead generation experts at Find New Customers using the form below.






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